HQ introduced today new set of categories (Topics) and posted them with examples of tags. I realized that there must be something wrong with those tags, or rather with the lenses they were coming from - the lenses were simply wrongly classified, many of them...
So I wrote at the Forum and presented some ideas, it was like these:
"Here are my proposed changes to newly-established Topics:
Animals & Nature
dog, animals, cat, charity
Remove: charity. Add: birds, bird-watching, aquarium, pets
Arts & Literature
arts, art, music, photography
Remove: photography. Add: TV, theatre, radio, painting, sculpture
Cars & Trucks
cars, autos, car, recreation
Remove: recreation
Business
marketing, business, money, internet marketing
Add: real estate, investing, trading, forex, small business, home business, WAHM
DIY & Hobbies
home, real estate, family, gardening
Remove: real estate. Add: crafts, photography, home improvement."
It's apparent from the listings of the lenses in many of the categories that people either do mis-classification on purpose (to avoid competition) or do that by mistake. I wanted to help them and gave a number of suggestions for most of the Topics - so that they classify their lenses properly and - as I wrote - so that "we built together "a social database - a human index of the best stuff on a given topic" - just like Seth wrote in his book "Small Is The New Big"."
But suddenly, a fireman-on-duty - jeffryv - appeared and he looked quite annonyed (did I disturbed his slumber?) either by my stubborness in promoting reasonable and accurate classification of lenses or by my messing with his nomen-omen pet project... Here is what he wrote:
So, the tone of it didn't sound too good and I was thinking how is he helping the public with post like that... What was his point? In fact, he just admitted exactly what I was saying before and that's why I wrote the latest post - that the lenses are being marked incorrectly! Isn't that what is he saying here :Hi zuzanna
Re:Topic tags
As I mentioned to you before the words (Tags) under the Topic headers are ever changing tags.( The most popular at that moment)
Try it out. click on one and you will find in the list of lens ones that are not even in that "Topic"
eg. Click the "Kids" tag under the Parenting Topic, you find me#1 with a "Animal/Pet" topic one second.
If you look at them 3 week from now they will be different, they have been changing since Squidoo started.
Cheers
JeffLast edited by jeffryv (Today 12:11 am)
"click on one and you will find in the list of lens ones that are not even in that "Topic"
eg. Click the "Kids" tag under the Parenting Topic, you find me#1 with a "Animal/Pet" topic one second."
Is Jeff proposing any better solution? No... He's just trumpeting that I'm repeating myself... but I'm not - as we have new categories and I was just telling other lensmasters about the best way to use it and improve it. Apparently jeffryv doesn't like the Rule #4 of the Forum - "The SquidU forum is a place for lensmasters to interact, to share ideas and inspiration (and yes, gripes... maybe another lensmaster can help) and have fun with their lenses."
But just for fun - I clicked the "Kids" tag under the Parenting Topic - exactly like jeffryv was suggesting and indeed I found him quickly (I always say Squidoo is very fast!). But he actually was #1 - "Learning Letters and Numbers Resources"!
Not exactly a "Animal/Pet" topic, but kid-related indeed. So I really don't know who of us is winning at this point of this forced argument, but the truth is the second lens under tag "home" was not Jeff''s, but GramaBarb's Golden Retrievers - Dogs with Hearts of Gold I think I'll admit here for a second that jeffryv was right here, but in fact he "borrowed" the lens from Grama to show me... It absolutely is a "Animal/Pet" topic, although that great lens should be rather under Animals & Nature Well, I'm always pro-family, I like pets and I like both of those lenses very much so I am happy now...
But, when I look at other Topics, I'm not impressed again and that's why I erh... dared to share my ideas on the Forum. For example, as of 11:50 PM PST, here are some of the most serious misclassifications:
DIY & Hobbies has "real estate" as a second most popular tag - shouldn't it be under business?
and as a 3rd tag it has "family"! Shouldn't it rather be under "Parenting and Kids"?
Even better example(s) - the following lenses can be found using jeffryv advice by going and clicking the "home " tag that is currently the most popular tag under DIY & Hobbies:
- UpDos For Proms, Weddings or Just Everyday by relache
- Affiliate Marketing Tools for Social Networking on Squidoo by Writertiff
- The Arts & Crafts Bungalow by naturalisagenix
- Color Trends by Color_Expert
- Perfect Paint Colors for Your Home's Interior by Color_Expert
- MLM LEADS | MAKE MONEY IN ANY MLM!!! by briandavis
Some of them make sense, but affiliate marketing? Or MLM leads. Why? Home business? Not the best try...
And most interestingly, somehow jeffryv's tag methodology doesn't work too well and the explanations are not too good in case of #1 lens under DIY & Hobbies - Homemaking & Housekeeping - Get Yourself Organized (LensRank: 5).
You would logically expect it to be under tag "home" - the most popular in that category (strange or not), or maybe among the first 2-3 there... But they are: real estate and family and that lens - which really is one of the best we had lately in Top 100 - isn't there. And it isn't in the next 7 tags - gardening, dogs, design, property, pets, crafts, houses or further. Why? Because for some reasons, its first tag is art! In fact, most of its tags are art-related and none of them is homemaking and housekeeping-related, which is rather strange for such excellent lens...
So should jeffryv be annoyed by my writing again that something has to be done about those tags? I think that he should allow me to tell people that properly choosing the tags (of course they should depend on the content - not MLM or affiliate marketing for "home"!) and based on that properly classifying the lenses is the best way to go...
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